Excuse this post if my searches missed a prior item. I am Chaparral noob about to purchase a 2015 226 SSI with the Volvo 300C DP and am trying to get insight as to what the Chaparral installed Garmin EchoMAP 70s can do. There's a real lack of information on this.
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Chaparral has essentially pointed me to my dealer. My dealer is trying to be supportive but their regional and company engineering contacts are not being very responsive.Thus, I am turning to you with some basic questions.It looks like the installation of the GPS changes.
I have the Garmin Echo 70s on my 2014 226 SSI. It's way more than I need. Here's what I like.Customizable gauges - you pick what you want to see on the flat screen.
Compass, speedometer, scalable map of lake bottom as you travel over it, water temperature, navigation, lake maps, can read it in full sunlight, and about 1000 other features I don't use. If I were on a really large lake and a fisherman I would probably love it even more.I probably could have gotten away without it - and just a basic compass and speedometer - but it looks really cool too. Not many boats in this size have this.
Thank you for the replies.Yes, I am familiar with the basic functions of the Garmin 70s but not the specific installation performed by Chaparral.For example, does Chaparral implement the Volvo NMEA 2000 interface so that the Garmin can display:. RPM. Engine hours. Coolant temperature. Battery voltage.
Turbo pressure. Oil pressure. Warnings and alarms. Trim positionThanks,ScottI don't think it's NEMA 2000.
It is NEMA 0183, but even with that it can do those functions (or at least most of them) - IF you connect it to the engine, and that's not how my 257 came, so I don't think Chap normally rigs it that way.Also, all of the things Except Turbo pressure are available on my left side multi-function gauge (which I wish was bigger), as well as on my EVC info / control panel. Short of clear documentation, I am having to gain insight into possible interfaces based on what is present.a.) My boat has Faria gauges. My first step is to validate which models of gauge the 226 has.If you can find out which model of gauge that your boat has, you can probably figure out which busit's designed to work with.The current Faria line has 3 buses: SmartCraft, NMEA 2000, J1939.( )According to Faria's web site, the CAN bus is either J1587 or J1939.
( )Once the gauge is identified, the type of interface can be identified and then an interface or bridge can bedetermined. Something like a Maretron interface might be in order.( ).b.) You can also do research with VP and see what protocols are exposed via their wiring harness.c.) Finally, looking into what it would take to bridge the engine to NMEA 2000 via the VP bridge and running the appropriatewires is the third path to explore.As the GPSMap 7608 has NMEA 2000, you could e-mail Garmin suport for ideas on how to interface.
Others have said thattheir support is pretty good in that area.I'm just starting to do this. I will post what I find out in my research.Regards. You will find that in order to really crack this topic, you're in for LOTS of web research with quite a few dead ends. I installed the Lenco AutoGlide trim tab controller on my 246!this season.
It uses a NMEA2K bus to allow the engine, GPS antenna, and controller to talk to each other. So now that I have the N2K bus, I'm looking to go glass cockpit if I can with a Lowrance or Garmin screen, or a custom screen using a tablet, display software, and WiFi or Bluetooth, etc. Unfortunately there's not a lot out there to make all this easy so just Google a lot and take notes of the sites you're pulling from.From what I have learned so far, you are ahead of the game with VP because it is my understanding they provide N2K off the engine monitoring system whereas Merc requires a gateway. So if your screen is N2K ready, you're halfway home. If not, or if your existing instrumentation is N0183, then you're headed to gateway city or changing out some instruments.Good luck and looking forward to hearing more about your learnings.
My understanding, is that you need a 'black box' to go in-between the EVC and the NMEA2k network. I was going to really look into it but gave it up.The gauges would take up too much 'desk top' space on the screen. I feel that you would need, more so with twins engines. Two or three 8 to 12' screens to display all the data with chartplotter and fish-finder info. But do love the idea!Unless you don't mind bouncing between gauges, maps, radar, and sonar displays.Oh ya, you can always call Garmin and ask.
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The only think I know to do is change style of switch to stainless toggles and cheapen it up to make better use of space available. I can't do that.and honestly, I don't think that the 70S will fit on that face anyway, without building a new face and cutting out the edge flange to widen the whole surface. So given that I can't relocate the switches to a useful place, and don't want to rebuild the entire dash and dash bonnet, I am thinking a ram mount is easiest and fastest, and probably the cleanest design. I also want it to be removable when parked at a restaurant, overnight, or in transit. So a flat or flush mount isn't really the best way for a trailer boat. I removed the other garmin in the 230 even when we went into a restaurant and put it in my boat bag. I will do the same with this one.
Too much temptation.for that matter, so is a Fusion HU! The part of the switch behind the dash is significantly bigger than the toggle of the switch on the dash. Here is the No Wake panel.there is room to move some things but not 3 extra switches, even if you rebuilt the entire panel, you can't get 5 rockers, 1 12V socket, and an aux plug.
I am good with mods.I just don't want to cheapen it up, and I like a stock look with mods, but not really visible change to stock. Excuses I know, but valid. Keep the ideas coming.you may help me find a solution yet! I could move the 12V and aux, but doing all those extensions don't much appeal to me. I will post up a pic of the back of the dash. It is a dramatic improvement over the 230 series, it is so clean back there you won't believe it. So going back to a mess isn't really appealing!
You probably have more room on your dash than I do, but your right, I could cram those switches together and move the aux and 12v. But the switches are labeled for side mount. I think they are actually engraved and not just a label. I know from going through switchology on the 230, that buying some of these switches can be done, others can't, but even still, adding $500 to buy new switches just to move them and make it look nice, doesn't look nice if labels are sideways now.
What bothers some doesn't bother others. I think the sideways labels would bother me more than just having the plotter above the switches.but your right, there may be room if you totally remove that panel, make a new one, and mount all the switches in that face.Where did you mount your ram mount?
Mel, I think mounted his Garmin fish/depth finder/ plotter in the same spot you initially mentioned using a custom made metal mount similar In shape the the one you drew. Maybe, he will see this and post a pic or a long term review.I put my garmin echo fish/depth finder on a long ram mount arm that attaches to ball that mounted to the inside wall next to the combing box, i drilled a small hole on the same side of the combing box and led the transducer lead through it (I use the 12v port to power it but may hard wire it through the same hole before next season). Additionally, since I don't have a combo unit I mounted my mini iPad on another long ram mount Based in the cup holder on the dash (I don't use it but the ones next to the throttles instead so I'm not losing any functionality that I care about). I will try and post a pic or two later if I can find them.I know you have the skills to build a new dash but also understand why you wouldn't want to. Your right about that, sometimes, ones skills get them to find out the limitation in the said skills too!
Lol I could build the new dash ok.but the time and limitations on my desire to rewire the whole boat may get me in too deep! LolSo your garmin isn't a chart plotter?
Great, I hope you can find the pics with both mounted. You may at some point want to upgrade the garmin.but I know your discretionary money takes 'flight'! Thanks for the lead, I hope sees it too.any pics help to give you better ideas of what a permanent mount will look like.